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Video Question of the Week: Is No First-Floor Powder Room a Deal Breaker?

Like all first-time buyers, when we were looking for a home we had a long, inflated list of 'must-haves' which we eventually had to eat.  When we finally met and fell in love with our dilapidated beauty, the list of things we said we absolutely could not do without looked like this:

  1. Parking - didn't get it, we park on the street.
  2. Central air - didn't get it, live with 100-yr old rads. 
  3. Reno'ed kitchen - ha!
  4. And especially painful, the first floor powder room: did not get it.  

While it wasn't a deal breaker, it was the hardest must-have to forgo. It's great for resale value and convenience alike, and saves you having to make nice in other parts of your home when guests come over and need to use the bathroom. 

Now, when we put our HGTV goggles on, so to speak (they don't yet exist) and walk around the house dreaming of doing this to it or that, we simply can't find space for a powder room on our first floor.  A friend who's an architect says all his clients want one, and carving out those powder rooms is his pet peeve...  

Thankfully we're not renovating any time soon, but our next door neighbours are, and lo and behold, they've run into the first floor powder room dilemma.  In the thick of drawing up plans for converting their two-residence home into a single family dwelling, they're at a stand-still: the husband, Steve, is all for the convenience -- they've a second child on the way -- and the wife, Roma, thinks too much of the layout is at stake.  

To get your opinion on their first floor bathroom dilemma, and on first floor bathrooms in general, I coerced Steve into giving us a snippet of their plans.  He's not exactly enthused to have a Flip camera and I talking like a pseudo-host in his face, but you get the gist of problem.  Oh, and sorry for the lack of light -- hard to pin these guys down in the day...

 

What do you think? Should they go ahead with the powder room?  How important is a first-floor powder room to you?  Even if you live in an apartment, how important is it to have a conveniently located guest bathroom?

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Comments:

By all means go for a Powder Room.  Once you have it you will wonder how you did without it.   It will not only be a major convenience for your family and guests but you will discover  there is that peace of mind when 'a stranger' asks if they can use your washroom facilities.  (ie:People who may have hired but do not necessairly know whether it be a Computer Techinician , a Roofer etc.)

January 26, 2010 5:49 PM

 

Thanks for always being the icebreaker mrsben!  And I do have to say that I LOVE a powder room, but I dunno, some people have a problem with peeing, etc., where others can hear them - often the case with first floor washrooms....

January 26, 2010 6:52 PM

 

Did they consider (or for that matter have you considered) a port-o-let for the guests? ...Heck, I'd sooner forgo my kitchen than be forced to send guests to a family washroom.

January 26, 2010 7:44 PM

 

Please! Get a washroom and shave off that soulpatch!

January 26, 2010 8:39 PM

 

a) I love the video. Cute. lol

b) How often do you have guests over? If it's often, then I vote yes. You don't want people shuffling through your medicine cabinet.

c) Do you plan on spending most of your time on that first floor? If so, then maybe a washroom there is a good idea. Especially when it comes time to potty train. It's hard enough getting kids to use a toilet, let alone when they have to climb stairs to do it.

January 26, 2010 9:12 PM

 

Get the washroom on the ground floor if you have the space...as you said it will be convenient for your drunken guests!  

January 26, 2010 9:33 PM

 

Its definitely handy but not a deal breaker. Unless you know people with mobility issues....

January 26, 2010 10:28 PM

 

Main floor bathroom all the way!!!  Our current home (a 2 storey semi) has no main floor bathroom and I really miss it!  Unfortunately there is NO room to add one, no matter how we slice and dice the floor plan.  If you've got the room put it in - you will not regret it.

January 26, 2010 10:28 PM

 

In my opinion, a main floor loo is essential! Case in point, my sister and her husband purchased and completely re-did a smaller 1½ home built in 1901. There was no area at all to install a main floor loo, so as a result, our elderly-mobility challenged parents rarely visited her home because the stairs were too much of a challenge. A real shame, they are a wonderful couple but the washroom issue just seemed to create another "roadblock" our parents spending time with them. With so much of our population  aging quickly, the lack a main floor toilet and sink would be a real estate deal breaker for me.

January 27, 2010 3:01 AM

 

Don't you wonder what your guests are doing upstairs in your  bathroom..do you really want to have to put away all the gazillions of csmetics out on the counter spaces? I vote for  downstairs bathroom...a Toto to be precise under the stairs or in a closet ...even the tiniest closet can accomodate an elegant powder room I have seen it done.

January 27, 2010 8:56 AM

 

Main floor powder room has been a lifesaver for me. My handicapped brother was too ill to climb the stairs, in fact his demenia prevented him from remembering how to climb. When we brought him to the main floor, he had to remain there until someone could carry him back.  It has been great training my granddaughter too!  Not to mention tradesman climbing up your stairs, with dust & dirt.

January 27, 2010 12:43 PM

 

Main floor powder rooms must be strategically placed or there can be an issue of privacy, especially in smaller houses.  If the square footage is available, great! but it's another bathroom to clean (my least favourite cleaning chore!).

January 27, 2010 12:57 PM

 

It's handy for guests yes, but also for kids. Running upstairs while toilet training can be a sprint to far.

Another consideration is the plumbing, since the washroom is moving quite far from the original drains you'll have to make sure your joists can accommodate new drain locations.

January 27, 2010 2:33 PM

 

I kind of agree with Paul and Elaine...

January 27, 2010 3:07 PM

 

Main floor bathrooms are great for people with mobility issues and small children or quick retreats from the outside. If you can put one in it will also help with resale. My husband and I just bought our last home and i made sure that the master bedroom and bathroom were on the main floor, for when we get older and stairs become a problem. Plus some of our older relatives have major problems with stairs and I want everyone that comes to visit to feel at home. hope these ideas help with yours.

January 28, 2010 9:26 PM

 

You are more than welcome Elana!  

Re the privacy issue, honestly,  I have never encountered 'anyone' that has declined using it because of its location.    

January 29, 2010 1:06 PM

 

P.S:   Shud have mentioned ..... and  it is in very close proximity to the Kitchen and Family Room.

January 29, 2010 1:25 PM

 

wish you would put the price of the repairs you do on the house because if you only have sop many dollars to do repairs can yuo do it for that much because sometime the money dictate the work

January 30, 2010 3:38 PM

 

who's the handsome dude in the video?

January 30, 2010 7:41 PM

 

I say go with the powder room, you will not regret it.  We have a washroom on every floor of our house (3 level semi), and guests are always pleasantly surprised that they don't have to trek up or down stairs to use the facilities.  As for the privacy issue, install an exhaust fan and you should not have any issues with bashfulness.  

January 30, 2010 9:44 PM

 

We have a home built in 1925 and it has no main floor powder room of course.  I was bemoaning this fact to my brother-in-law (who is doing some renos on his first home) and he said no one likes to use theirs, and ends up going upstairs.  I would much rather keep the original character and charm of our lovely home that try to put a bathroom in an awkward layout, where it would be far to close to our entertaining space.

January 31, 2010 9:58 PM

 

How big is the house?  If its 4 bedroom 3000 sqft house then yes its a deal breaker... if its a 2 bedroom 1600 sqft house then no.  

People must be realistic with their expectations!

January 31, 2010 10:28 PM

 

We recently renovated our 1930s house.  I was quasi-pressured by my mom to put in a main floor powder room because of her mobility issues, and I'm so glad we did it.  Aside from aging parents, having a main floor powder room is extremely practical when you have small children. Rather than having to run upstairs when a small kid needs to go potty (and what do you do this the other kid? lug him or her upstairs), you can deal with both kids on the main floor. yes, you can live without a main floor powder room but if you can do fit one in without killing your layout, do it. Also you definitely want to keep the plumbing close to the current location from a cost saving perspective.  I can't tell from the video but have you considered making a smaller powder room in the current bathroom location and having it share a wall with a hall closet at the entry way.  Hall closets are a must with kids.

January 31, 2010 11:27 PM

 
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